Wil Wheaton the sexist?

WWdN: In Exile: hillary clinton: the psycho ex-girlfriend of the democratic party

To start, this is an excellent post on the current state of the democratic primaries and why Hilary Clinton may be hurting the party just out of arrogance and spite.  She might not, of course, maybe she is in denial and doesn’t realise what she’s doing, that isn’t even the point, the point is the effect her actions are having – and that’s what is discussed here.

But don’t stop there, flick through some of the comments.  They are HILARIOUS.  Truly.  At no point when I was reading this post did I think “wow, that’s sexist” at any point.  Wow this is funny, sure.  Wow, how true – yep.  But never, wow how sexist.

Here, i’ll spell it out.  -There is nothing sexist in that post.-

And again for the cheap seats at the back -There is nothing sexist in that post.-

It shouldn’t need to be said, particularly as Wil has said it twice in his updated post already, but obviously it does.  Read the comments, they’re great, they’re by halfwits, they’re by people who, to use an Australian phrase, are a couple of stubbies short of a six pack. 

My personal favorite is the self-righteous mug who says “You don’t get to decide what is sexist!”, to which there can only be one reply: “So, why do you?”

Seriously people, who died and made you lord high executioner?

I’ll tell you what sexist is.  Sexist is when a woman is constantly passed over for promotion/job/benefits for no other reason than someone thinks a “woman can’t do it.”

Sexist is a police officer who doesn’t bother working a rape case hard because the girl wore a short skirt and was “asking for it”

I also heard of a nurse who abused her trainees so terribly, with poor reviews and screaming fits, that they dropped out of the industry altogether, because she didn’t think men could be good nurses.  That is sexist.

Hell lets get personal, I myself have been a victim of sexism when I was too young to even understand what was going on.  Thats right, a white, european descent male can also be a victim of sexism.

Sexism is -not- describing character flaws of a public figure in an amusing way.  As Wil quite succintly points out, comparing Hillary Clinton to a psycho ex-girlfriend is not sexism, because the comparative quality in that statement is “psycho ex-“.  Everyone has had psycho ex’s, men and women both, i’ve known plenty of men and women with real horror stories about their previous relations and the reactions that occured after breakup.

Hilary is acting like a psycho ex-girlfriend, because it would be somewhat more insulting to call her a psycho ex-boyfriend.  She is, after all, a woman.

Understand that by making claims like this you not only show yourself for an idiot, you insult all those people who really -have- been victims of sexism, racism, or any other form of discrimination.  It is wonderful that in the modern times, sexism is gradually becoming less and less prevalent and far less accepted.  It is somewhat less wonderful that many of the people who feel the need to take up arms in defence of the cause nowadays have never themselves known true discrimination, just imagined or misconstrued discrimination.  Hell, sometimes I think these people -want- to be discriminated against, just to justify their own sense of outrage and persecution.

The funniest thing, of course, is that there is no way anyone commenting on the Democratic primaries can escape this.  Lets face it – if he was a Clinton supporter and said that Obama was rigging the votes, or should have allowed a new election, or whatever thing clinton supporters are saying at the moment, the response would be pretty much the same.

Wil, you’re a racist.

As the Brits say, what a load of bollocks.


4 thoughts on “Wil Wheaton the sexist?

  1. I think you’re missing some of the subtlety. Just as it’s racist to use certain words phrases to describe minorities, some particular phrases and memes are historically sexist and should be avoided. I don’t think Wil intended to make a point in a sexist way. In fact, I agree with the point he was trying to make. I abhor Hillary Clinton in the same way that he does.

    However, the phrasing that the linked article uses *is* sexist. Check out what “Backpack Dad” had to say in the comments. It really nails it.

    Wil is not a sexist but that post is sexist.

  2. I completely disagree (but you know that already 🙂 )

    Personally, I think society, particularly American society (though, as with all things in American culture, it’s leaked overseas in growing quantities) as so obsessed with so-called “subtleties” that they see them even when they don’t exist. So many discussions, arguments and more to the point, criticisms are labelled sexist or racist just because it’s so easy to do – it’s a cop out, a way to attack someone who has a good point that you can’t argue on its own merits. In this case, I believe that’s all it is.

    As I said above, the test for this point is simple. Would the post be just as effective describing the situation if she were a woman, and the wording had been “ex-boyfriend” instead of “ex-girlfriend”. The answer, in my opinion (and Wil’s) is yes, it would, as the behaviour is well known to manifest in both sexes.
    Secondly, would we be having this discussion if Hillary were a man, and the post had said ex-boyfriend.

    The answer to that, obviously, is no, and if you don’t believe that then you’re not paying enough attention, or your in denial about the current state of gender politics, and nothing anyone says is going to get you down from your podium in anycase.

    In my opinion, the real sexism is right there. People are up at arms about a good-natured jab at a public figure woman who is behaving badly, people who would never defend her if she were a man.

    Every time on of these discussions breaks out and accusations get flung and reputations get ruined, we are pushed years back again from true equality. True equality means both sexes treated equally, and that will never happen so long as people think women (and the same applies for race relations) need to be treated with kid gloves.

    Criticism and mocking, cruel as they can be, are vital parts of human social relations, particularly when dealing with public figures. When you set a person apart from that, because they’re black, or a woman (or a black woman), or disabled, you effectively set them apart as “special”. You are saying they are too weak to stand the same pressures as everyone else. The public don’t like special people. Private derision, dislike and condenscension is their inheritance.

    If she were being insulted or mocked for being a woman I would be the first to leap to her defence. If she were being held back, restricted, or anything else -because she is a woman-, she (and her supporters) would have a right to be angry.

    She isn’t. She is being mocked simply because she is doing things that are mockable. She is doing things that are stupid, and we laugh at public figures that do stupid things.

    She has the -right- to be laughed at for doing stupid things, just like all her male counterparts in politics.

    Everything else is smoke and mirrors.

  3. It *was* a sexist comment, because of the term “girlfriend”. It separated her a – serious political candidate – from the party itself, she’s only “dating” it. It was demeaning in strictly feminine terms. The pretense that “it would have been demeaning to use the term boyfriend, because she’s female” was incredibly lame, because not only was it a strawman, and tried to elide the truth that I just pointed out), but – & here’s the kicker – did anyone call Howard Dean the psycho ex-BOYFRIEND of the Democratic party when *he* tried hanging on – & w/less reason than Hillary?

    Also, there are some of us who don’t accept that she was doing anything wrong – certainly no more than Barack Obama, or even the Chairman of the Democratic Party – hey, Howard Dean!

    It was not a “good natured jab” – it was a spiteful, sexist remark.

  4. Gee, the white man thinks he has the right to condescendingly dictate to women and minorities what constitutes racism/sexism when he has never been a ‘victim’ of either. What a surprise. Also, your bs “I was a victim of sexism” and then refusing to elaborate is very telling. Notice that the overwhelming majority of people who rail against political correctness are, in fact, white and/or male. Shhhhhocking…..

    Fed Up is dead on btw.

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